VOUT + R1 ref meaning

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  • Hi,

    I have a shelly 1 pm plus and an addon, and a thermistor NTC (24 kohms at +5 degrees, 10 kohms at +20 degrees)

    The doc has this ratings https://kb.shelly.cloud/knowledge-base/shelly-plus-add-on


    Output circuits ratings

    VCC max. current:

    10 mA

    VREF OUT max. current:

    1 mA

    VREF+R1 OUT resistor

    10 kΩ

    So it seems my thermistor is out of range, right ?

    I was hoping to more or less follow the setup described here : https://kb.shelly.cloud/knowledge-base…-photoresistor-

    Now I'm trying to understand a bit deeper how things work : is R1 here an internal resistance of the addon ? If so, do we know its value ?

    I tried to wire the thermistor between GND, ANALOG IN and VREF + R1 OUT and got some voltage readings around 6v in Shelly UI, but not very stable, changing constantly between ~ 5.80 and 6.20v (at a 17 degrees place).

  • Better than words would be an insight at the innards:

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    R1 = 10kΩ.

    Hope that helps!

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    Einmal editiert, zuletzt von thgoebel (12. Dezember 2023 um 18:05)

  • Thanks !

    Actually I read the add on characteristics again and found this mention :

    Supported sensors

    • Up to 5 DS18B20
    • Single DHT22
    • NTC resistors with 10 kΩ nominal resistance and β=4000 K

    I'm not sure if my thermistor qualifies with this requirement but it doesn't look too far off 🤔

  • So I now have a bit of data to share, and the results aren't really great (the voltage difference being quite low so accuracy wouldn't so good I guess).

    voltage at around 18.1° : ~ 6.2v

    voltage at around 5.5° : ~ 7.4v

    temperature comes from a ds18b20 sensor really close to the thermistor

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    Any idea if I could improve a bit on this ?

  • Obviously, your NTC has the appropriate mutual conductance (β factor). Thus, the variance of resistance is too small at the given temperature band.

    „Habt Geduld. Alle Dinge sind schwierig, bevor sie einfach werden!“ (aus Frankreich)

    „Nothing in life is to be feared, it is only to be understood.“ (Marie Curie, 1867-1934)

    „Comment is free, but facts are sacred“ (C.P. Scott, britischer Verleger)